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    • Complaint Type:
      Product Issues
      Status:
      Resolved
      I am writing to formally dispute unauthorized charges totaling $1,350, billed at $225 every three months, made by your company to my account. Despite numerous attempts to understand these charges, I have not received adequate clarification or documentation confirming my consent for these transactions. My initial interaction with your service involved using a prop fund that provided me with a serial key, under the impression that I was solely subscribing to market data. At no point was I made aware that this would incur recurring charges, nor do I understand what these charges are for. I have previously contacted your customer service, but the only response received was a vague reference to a "Serial Key" purchase, which I do not recognize nor approve of. Given the nature of these unclear charges, I request a detailed breakdown of the charges, the cessation of further billing, and a full refund of the amount charged.

      Business response

      08/15/2024

      This client never sent in a request to cancel his quarterly license key payment ($225 every 3 months). Filed dispute after one email explaining when the quarterly license key was purchased (2/8/23) and in that very same email we offered to cancel his renewal on that key. The client sent us a screenshot of the BBB report being filed and then one of our team leads (*********************) reached out to explain why they were charged and pointed out that the client never reached out to us for assistance with cancelling the renewal for this key. They claimed that we should have cancelled the key as they were working with a prop firm (Apex) and so the two keys were redundant, but we explained that the it is up to the client to cancel a key, and we are happy to assist should they reach out for help. We cancelled the renewal on the clients behalf 3 days after the report with the BBB was filed. For context, the client had to purchase this through Paypal personally, so they would have input their credit card details and agreed to our terms of service before we ever issued them a key. 

      Customer response

      08/15/2024

       
      Better Business Bureau:

      I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID ********, and find that this resolution is satisfactory to me.

      Sincerely,

      *********************
    • Complaint Type:
      Billing Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      I signed up at ninjatrader. Attempts to fund my account has been fruitless until an unauthorized payment of ***** was taken from my community bank account. Ninja acct *******

      Business response

      08/15/2024

      The only charge I'm seeing for this client was a $4 fee charged for live market data. That was paid on 4/19 and verified the transaction in Stripe. This client didn't reach out to us about the $72 charge under the email listed, or under the email we have on file for their trading account (grrootsphnrng@gmail.com). This is more than likely a charge from a 3rd party for tools to use on the NinjaTrader software. The client funded their trading account on 4/1 and then removed the funds by 4/27. They purchased market data through us after filing this complaint. 
    • Complaint Type:
      Billing Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      I had a family member hospitalized a little over a year ago. The NinjaTrader platform is always connected on my home computer just as my other accounts. I called all my account brokers to notify them that I will not be trading and to suspend any fees except data fees, including NinjaTrader. NinjaTrader decided to charge me $25/month. After the passing of the family member, I am now looking over statements and realizing this is the scam Ninja Trader is running. Along with this, they changed my clearinghouse from a well known one to their own so they can charge these fees. Ridiculous. I am seeking to have these charges reversed and advised by their own staff to withdraw all funds, which I have initiated. The account is under my father's name.

      Business response

      08/15/2024

      This client claimed they reached out to support to cancel their data renewal stating that they wouldn't be trading for a while, however we have no such record of this client making that request. This was ultimately escalated to compliance as the client incurred $250 in inactivity fees. For reference - This fee only would have applied if they were using the software during those 10 months that they stated they were indisposed. After conferring with compliance, they informed me that we credited them back the $250, despite the policy being clear. The client was unhappy with this resolution, so we added an additional $300 as a courtesy and they came back and asked for $54 more on top of the $550. Joe Pucci worked with this client if we need more details. 
    • Complaint Type:
      Billing Issues
      Status:
      Answered
      I funded the account via ACH and wire from my brokerage and bank a week ago. They are not letting me withdraw any funds claiming that there is a 10 day waiting period. This is beyond acceptable. The longest any brokerage has told me an ACH must wait is 4 days. My main brokerage only waits 2 days. I believe they intend to keep the money locked up. I need it to pay my bills immediately.Additionally, they provide no bank wire options.Furthermore, they have failed to set up a trading account connection to their platform within a month of starting a newly funded account in October. They have been charging me data fees this whole time.They do not seem to be a legitimate clearing house for futures.I would like all charges and funded money back.

      Business response

      08/15/2024

      Our policy on the ACH withdrawal window is very clear and we are happy to explain this to clients. In this case, the client messaged us repeatedly (7 chats on 11/16) and Dennis eventually reached out via phone to explain the policy. The client stuck around with us for quite a while after this issue was resolved. We can see from their 11/17/22 statement that the ACH withdrawal was processed through in the amount of $12,500. One thing I'd point out here is that this client is not in position to trade here or elsewhere if they are needing to move funds ASAP to pay bills as this would no longer qualify as risk capital. In reference to them not getting setup we reached out for a concierge onboarding call on 10/17/22 to assist this client, which was nearly a month before this complaint was filed with the BBB. 
    • Complaint Type:
      Billing Issues
      Status:
      Resolved
      A close of account and requested wire transfer on 10-31-2022. I was told by email that it should appear in my checking account within 3 days. It is now nearly 12 noon and it still has not. Numerous phone calls to brokerage support as well as emails have not been answered. The amount is $296.83. The company has engaged in a rather clever technique of claiming that it has upgraded its client portal but no data appears relative to Daily and Monthly account statements; absence of a paper trail is the way they are hiding impropriety. I am hereby requesting that the BBB inform Ninjatrader that I want a full refund of the wire transfer via the same method I wired the funds to my Ninjatrader account and do it ASAP!

      Business response

      08/15/2024

      This client requested a withdrawal on 10/31 and it was processed and sent out on 11/1. The reason for the delay was that they opted to have a paper check sent to them. Despite filing this report, this client has remained active with NinjaTrader and had an active balance with us last month. We received an email from them on 12/1/22 where they led in with "To whom it may concern, this is Steven Travis, Loyal NinjaTrader customer." I believe the main source of the issue surrounding this one, was the client preferring to receive a check (which takes longer to receive) rather than paying the fee for an outbound wire transfer. 

      Customer response

      08/15/2024

       
      Complaint: 18358805

      I am rejecting this response because: I did not request a check, NINJATRADER OPTED TO SEND ME ONE OF ITS OWN VOLISION.  What's more, I did not complain about NinjaTrader regarding any matter as I have never had a grievance with the company.  I DO NOT THINK THAT THE COMPANY HAS BEEN A PROBLEM OF ANY SORT ALTHOUGH I HAVE NEVER OPTED FOR A TIME CONSUMING CHECK TO CLOSE AN ACCOUNT.

      Sincerely,

      Steven Travis

      Business response

      08/22/2024

      Hi Steven, 

      We're happy to hear that you have no complaint with NinjaTrader regarding this matter nor have you had a grievance with our company. We were responding to an initial complaint on file with the BBB and if that's no longer nor has ever been applicable to you, we're glad to hear it! 

      Sincerely,

      NinjaTrader

      Customer response

      08/23/2024

       
      Better Business Bureau:

      I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID 18358805, and find that this resolution is satisfactory to me.

      Sincerely,

      Steven Travis

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